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Wherein Michelle is irritated

Someone on Facebook kindly pointed out that someone appears to be selling a used (!) copy of Cast in Silence on Amazon.com.

Cast in Silence doesn't exist as a new book yet. It doesn't exist as an ARC yet. It barely exists as a finished manuscript, because I am still working my way through the AAs mentioned a couple of days ago.

The "merchant" in question is asking how much? Guess. The answer is here.

I'm not entirely sure what he -- or to be fair, she or they -- hope to gain from this, and mine is not the only "used" book offered for sale at this price. The other one thirty seconds of perusal turned up is Maria Snyder's also as yet unpublished book. I cannot imagine that anyone--besides a publisher--would pay 1,000.00 for a book of mine, let alone one that doesn't even exist.

So. Just in case you're curious: He isn't selling an ARC. Because it doesn't exist. He isn't, as far as I can tell, selling anything genuine. If anyone asks you about this, please pass it on, or point them here.


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Apr. 10th, 2009 11:25 pm (UTC)
Same company is trying to sell a copy of Steve Miller and Sharon Lee's Fledgling for the same price.
Apr. 10th, 2009 11:29 pm (UTC)
You could buy it.
It would save you the time writing it ;-)
Apr. 10th, 2009 11:31 pm (UTC)
Not sure what the scam is but he's asking for $1000 for a copy of Jean Redmann's not-yet-out mystery, too:
Apr. 10th, 2009 11:46 pm (UTC)
Can I assume you've reported them to Amazon? Your word will have a lot more weight than ours in the matter, methinks!
Apr. 11th, 2009 05:30 am (UTC)
Actually just a straight report from her doesn't do much good because they don't have a lot of ways to verify her as the author. Her publisher/vendor might be a better option. Reporting the seller is a great idea though. Since it is obvious from the main page that the book isn't out yet and he HAS to be selling an illegal copy. (I worked for Amazon for a while).
Apr. 10th, 2009 11:49 pm (UTC)
Michelle, I just had to write to the SAME GUY -- charging that same absurd $1,000 -- for one of our books that won't be published until September. He did take it down; said I was "right" and he didn't have that book at all. It was "an error."

Apr. 11th, 2009 12:19 am (UTC)
used unpublished copies...
I was browsing Amazon and he is also selling one of Maya Banks unpublished books for the same price with the same description.
Apr. 11th, 2009 12:27 am (UTC)
He has an unpublished Twilight Book up as well. If Meyer's lawyers get wind of that this guy will never see daylight again.

I will say this scam takes a lot of guts and very little brain.
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Apr. 11th, 2009 01:38 am (UTC)
Please report him to Amazon. He needs to be banned.
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(no subject) - wolfsilveroak - Apr. 12th, 2009 02:25 am (UTC) - Expand
Apr. 11th, 2009 02:16 am (UTC)
No chance a person got hold of a draft?
Apr. 11th, 2009 02:24 am (UTC)
No chance a person got hold of a draft?

No chance whatsoever. And none of the ARC, either; the AAs are the step -before- the page proofs that their internal proofreaders read. Those pages are the ones that will be used for galleys; the ones I'm working on now lead directly into those ones.

Apr. 11th, 2009 02:20 am (UTC)
I sent a headsup to Jane at Dear Author and she has posted an alert on the blog. Plus I have checked at this store and Jayne Ann Krentz plus a few others are also affected. I hope this gets sorted out soon and amazon will finally do something.
Apr. 11th, 2009 02:25 am (UTC)
Thank you -- I did call amazon.com, and I filled out a web-form stating the problem clearly; the call, with holds, took about an hour, but hopefully some good will come of it.
(no subject) - mmarques - Apr. 11th, 2009 02:42 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - msagara - Apr. 11th, 2009 02:48 am (UTC) - Expand
Apr. 11th, 2009 02:42 am (UTC)
Maybe the guy has a time machine that he is using to bring such items back from the future. More likely, this sounds like wire fraud and would be a federal offense if he is in the US. I hope someone gets him.

However, I am looking forward to reading a legitimate copy of the book when it is available.
Apr. 11th, 2009 02:55 am (UTC)
Oh dear. And how much do you wanna bet that some poor dork does fall for it? I mean /one/ of the scams, not necessarily your book.
Apr. 11th, 2009 03:24 am (UTC)
It's weird because he lists books that are actually published for normal used-book prices. Has a storefront and everything.

It's remotely possible he could have a bug in his system. Will be interested to find out what happened there.
Apr. 11th, 2009 03:57 am (UTC)
Especially when you also consider the positive comments on his profile. I guess he could set up some bot to do that, though.
(no subject) - msagara - Apr. 11th, 2009 04:01 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - motteditor - Apr. 11th, 2009 04:04 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - msagara - Apr. 11th, 2009 04:12 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - motteditor - Apr. 11th, 2009 12:53 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - (Anonymous) - Apr. 11th, 2009 03:52 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - wolfsilveroak - Apr. 12th, 2009 02:27 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - motteditor - Apr. 12th, 2009 02:29 am (UTC) - Expand
Understanding Feedback Ratings - (Anonymous) - Apr. 11th, 2009 04:11 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: Understanding Feedback Ratings - msagara - Apr. 11th, 2009 04:27 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: Understanding Feedback Ratings - msagara - Apr. 11th, 2009 04:41 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: Understanding Feedback Ratings - threegoldfish - Apr. 11th, 2009 07:05 pm (UTC) - Expand
Apr. 11th, 2009 04:57 am (UTC)
What is that seller thinking? Cheats and con artists can be so clumsy and stupid about it.
Apr. 11th, 2009 08:32 am (UTC)
There is no FRAUD going on here - there was a database error during a database merge that caused a few ISBN's in my multi-million book inventory to get corrupted. When that file was loaded into an Amazon server, it listed some books for sale that I do not have. A built-in safety measure increased the price of these items (items for which my inventory management system cannot verify the existence of in any of our warehouses). The prices were raised up high enough to prevent anyone from ever considering buying the items, then when a live person (not an automated inventory management system) verifies the error in the inventory, that suspect item will be removed from our master database.

There has been many accusations about these books that were accidentally offered for sale, some pretty wild accusations I might add, and I am disturbed that no one ever thought that TSCBOOKS (me) may have simply made a mistake.

I am not a cheat or a con artist, as this post has stated, I am an honest business man trying to run a large book company. If I was attempting to defraud anyone by selling them books that I do not have, would it not make more sense for me to offer these books for sale at a price that someone might actually pay? No one would pay $1000 for one of these books, especially one that obviously is not available for sale yet. This is the very reason why the price is set so high when a potential system error is detected -So No One Will Buy That Item.

You should reconsider how you look at the world - the most obvious reason for all of this commotion is "A Mistake". Most of the posts here are taking the assumption that bad intention were the reason for these books being offered for sale. Not a single person offered the idea that someone or something at TSCBOOKS "might have made a mistake". Why do you think it had to be something bad that TSCBOOKS did? Is that more exciting to you? I apologize if this was a simply, boring, unintentional computer error, but that is exactly what happened.

Please forgive me for having a computer error. Please note that our database safety systems instantly prevented anyone from buying these books (at least anyone that would not spend $1000 for a book that is probably worth less than $5O). Not a single person has attempted to buy any of the books in question yet, and I am fairly sure that no one will ever try to do so. If anyone would attempt to buy an item that I determine I dont really have, their order would be cancelled immideatly, their payment would immideatly be refunded and the sale canceled since the item is unavailable.

Please let me know if there is any immediate action anyone would request I take in regards to any of these books in question - please post a response on this web site.

Thanks for taking the time to discuss this.


Re: I AM TSCBOOKS - rolanni - Apr. 11th, 2009 11:45 am (UTC) - Expand
Re: I AM TSCBOOKS - (Anonymous) - Apr. 11th, 2009 03:57 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: I AM TSCBOOKS - fyrna - Apr. 11th, 2009 07:58 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: I AM TSCBOOKS - msagara - Apr. 11th, 2009 08:24 pm (UTC) - Expand
Apr. 11th, 2009 07:30 am (UTC)
It makes me almost envious. I have problems selling my finished books...
I assume time travel accounts for the high cost, though.
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